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Title: [REQUEST] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: WillLem on May 24, 2020, 12:22:15 PM
Hi all,

I'm having some issues with a new laptop I bought recently. I've already decided I'm returning it, but before I go ahead and shop for another, I just need to see now NL looks in everyone's display.

Please can you screenshot your F2 Level Select menu and post it here, along with your laptop make and model.

Thank you!

For reference, here's how it looks on my old laptop (an Acer Aspire from 2010 with a 15" 1366 x 768 display) Nice, clear, friendly MS Sans Serif:
(https://i.imgur.com/tEaEBO7.png)

And here's how it looks on the new laptop (an Acer Swift 3 from 2019 with a 14" 1920 x 1080 display). Yucky Bilinear scaling with mucky orange anti-aliasing:
(https://i.imgur.com/zsbXqci.png)

(I've also attached these images because embedding from imgur adds its own layer of filtering!)
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: mantha16 on May 24, 2020, 12:31:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/au1bVrb.png)

Lenovo 80G0
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: Simon on May 24, 2020, 12:54:31 PM
WillLem's blurry subpixel antialiasing looks like Windows 10 font settings problem.

Attached is picture of NL run via Wine on Linux. Clear sans-serif pixellated font.

-- Simon
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: ccexplore on May 24, 2020, 01:01:16 PM
Is only the text in the level selection tree affected, or also all other texts displayed elsewhere in NeoLemmix (excluding of course the ones based on the Lemmings graphics)?  How about other texts in other programs running on that laptop?
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: WillLem on May 24, 2020, 01:05:32 PM
Is only the text in the level selection tree affected, or also all other texts displayed elsewhere in NeoLemmix (excluding of course the ones based on the Lemmings graphics)?  How about other texts in other programs running on that laptop?

It affects any and all programs that run in lower resolutions. The computer upscales these using a basic Bilinear filter, and they appear particularly blurry alongside the neat, HD-quality of Windows itself (plus any other apps that run in basic HD or higher).

All menus and dialog boxes in NL are affected by this scaling.

Please keep the screenshots coming, people. It's really a big help!
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: Proxima on May 24, 2020, 02:56:49 PM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/598671586203271219/714129719439654942/level_select.png?width=612&height=450)
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: WillLem on May 24, 2020, 04:05:51 PM
Thanks Proxima! What's your laptop?
Title: Re: [FOAR EVRYWUN FRUM WILLLEM] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: namida on May 24, 2020, 07:51:00 PM
It's not to do with specific models of laptop, it's related to the fact that you've got a non-integer scaling setting. This would happen with any app that isn't DPI-aware when used with a non-integer scale (which your laptop model may affect the default setting of, to be fair); in practice, most apps are DPI aware nowdays, but NeoLemmix is not. The main reason for this, apart from simply "it's always been like that", is that on particularly high-res displays (4K in particular), NL gets very laggy if it's running at that full resolution rather than being partly upscaled by the OS.

Either turn your laptop's scaling down to 100%, or else set NL to ignore the scaling:
1. Right click NeoLemmix's EXE, go to Properties
2. Click "Change high-DPI settings"
3. Near the bottom of the window that pops up, click the "Override high-DPI scaling" checkbox and select "Performed by application" from the dropdown

I recommend using the above steps only when your screen's scaling is non-integer (eg. 125% or 150% or 250%; but not if it's eg. 200% or 300%). NL should look fine when the scaling is an integer factor.
Title: Re: [REQUEST] Please can everyone screenshot their F2 menu... THX!
Post by: WillLem on May 25, 2020, 07:30:17 AM
It's not to do with specific models of laptop, it's related to the fact that you've got a non-integer scaling setting... click the "Override high-DPI scaling" checkbox and select "Performed by application" from the dropdown

This fixed it - NL now looks nice and crisp again! :thumbsup: Thanks for this, Namida!

Wierdly though, it's still using a different font than MS Sans Serif for the menu. At least the orangeyness has disappeared though, and the colours in general are now looking more like they should.

So yeah, happy to close this topic now. Thanks everyone!