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Title: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on May 26, 2009, 11:27:42 AM
I just found this site - a functional (though not very informative) Lemmings wiki.

Would it be worthwhile to contribute to this, or try to create something like it? Do you guys like the wiki style?
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: The Doctor on May 26, 2009, 01:41:11 PM
I may contribute to this wiki. It already exists, I don't see much point in making another.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on May 26, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
Why make another one?  Might as well just improve it...
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on May 27, 2009, 03:33:37 AM
When I say "create something like it", I mean some sort of on-site information centre that forum members can edit. Civfanatics has something like this and it seems to work well.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Mr Kiwi on May 27, 2009, 03:53:18 AM
I think making a new one would be better then adding to a dead one.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: The Doctor on May 27, 2009, 12:05:45 PM
It's only dead if people don't add to it.

So, if we added to it, like I've started to, it's not dead.

Simple math.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Mr Kiwi on May 27, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Nm looks like it is static.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: The Doctor on May 28, 2009, 03:02:36 AM
Only one way to change that, isn't there...

I'm gonna try to add as much detail on the various ports of Lemmings I've played, and maybe some Lemmings 2 details.

Making our own wiki is pointless if nobody would edit it.

There's already a wiki nobody is editing.

There'd just be two unedited wikis.

So why not just pick up where they left off.

After all, the whole point of a wiki is you contribute.

So...

...contribute. ;)
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Adam on May 28, 2009, 03:06:53 AM
I'm not a fan of Wikis myself.. but that's because I like things to look nice. Wikis are incredibly difficult to style from my past experience. I think it'd be worth saving a copy of any contributions any of us make to the wiki in case Wikia goes kaput. If we as a forum can make it a proper Lemmings Wiki, I think it'd be a fantastic resource for people looking to find out more about Lemmings!
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Mr Kiwi on May 28, 2009, 04:02:28 AM
I'm not a fan of Wikis myself.. but that's because I like things to look nice. Wikis are incredibly difficult to style from my past experience. I think it'd be worth saving a copy of any contributions any of us make to the wiki in case Wikia goes kaput. If we as a forum can make it a proper Lemmings Wiki, I think it'd be a fantastic resource for people looking to find out more about Lemmings!

QFT
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on May 28, 2009, 05:10:24 AM
I see some progress already :). Later on we might even be able to add cool stuff that no one has done before, like glitches. Bulbapedia (Pokemon wiki) has awesome pages about glitches and other quirks - I can see a Lemmings wiki having something similar.

Just don't go putting all your time into this over other projects :).
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on May 28, 2009, 05:20:09 AM
The Wiki needs, like, a thousand more articles, there's barely anything on there.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: The Doctor on May 28, 2009, 06:54:42 AM
Well, like I say, only one way to make those pages.... and that's to make them.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Chmera on May 31, 2009, 02:56:28 PM
  There was actually a wiki created by the people of this forum. I seem to have deleted the bookmark, though it's out there - somewhere. It was eventually abandoned, and had a large number of articles as well, if I recall, many of which I made or contributed to.
  If anyone has the URL tucked away somewhere, it'd be appreciated. =P
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Mindless on June 01, 2009, 09:16:37 AM
If anyone has the URL tucked away somewhere, it'd be appreciated. =P

covox was hosting it.  it's dead, and has been for a long time :/
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on June 01, 2009, 10:16:24 PM
Is it even still in existence?  ???
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Mr Kiwi on June 05, 2009, 03:39:21 AM
Hmm, I don't know what I want to do.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on June 05, 2009, 05:39:25 AM
I have just added several articles to this Wiki by going through the list of levels and adding ones in for the red links.  However, I, for obvious reasons, didn't go through all of them.  They can wait a while longer until I get around to them.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on June 29, 2009, 07:16:11 AM
Is there still any interest in this? It's gone awfully quiet in the last few weeks. My schedule has cleared somewhat, so I might join up and start working on this. I can't do everything on my own though ;)

I can see this becoming a great place to get information about Lemmings, if we contribute to it. (Then again, I can equally well see it staying as it is for some time :() Lemmings-related stuff has never been greatly organised, and I think the game deserves better.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on July 01, 2009, 04:53:35 AM
I've gone through and added articles for all the ONML levels, plus Xmas 91 and 92. (Some kind soul did the original levels a couple of weeks ago). Now that the boring stuff is mostly out of the way, we can start adding something interesting to this.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on July 02, 2009, 11:48:31 PM
Most people seem to agree that we should not give up on it.  I could have contributed if I hadn't been on vacation for the last several days.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on November 09, 2009, 04:40:00 AM
While I'm bumping old threads, I might as well do this one as well. The wiki is looking pretty much the same as it did after I added all those pages a few months back. This site has a lot of potential - Lemmings doesn't have much in the way of a centralised information archive, and this could be it.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on November 09, 2009, 10:27:58 PM
I almost forgot about that wiki, mainly because of the constant bookmark losing (my computer was doing a great job sucking).
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on November 10, 2009, 01:13:10 AM
Hey, I know - we can make an article about L++. And Lemmix, and Cheapo, and Lemmini...
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Proxima on November 10, 2009, 01:38:33 AM
Thanks for the bump -- I hadn't known about this before.

Although there are articles on all the levels, they aren't very informative, so it would be good if between us we could add as much information as we can (as well as pictures). I'm doing "The Steel Mines of Kessel" :P
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on November 10, 2009, 04:41:21 AM
Yeah, it's mostly bare pages at this point. Still, better that than no pages at all...
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Proxima on November 10, 2009, 01:48:38 PM
I'll try and add a little more information every day, and gradually it will build up :)

I hadn't realised the "Level" subheading was meant for the solution to the level -- I will rename this heading "Solutions" since many levels have more than one.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on November 10, 2009, 09:47:30 PM
I have created an L++ article.  Although those Flash ads are so annoying.  Thank goodness for Firefox add-ons.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on November 13, 2009, 01:49:09 AM
The worst ads disappear when you sign in. It's a mean little incentive to sign up instead of editing anonymously >:(

I'm improving the articles on skills right now, and I might add in the L2 ones today as well. I've also expanded the page on Lemmings 3.

Remember, the more people who get on board here, the faster we can build this up and get it looking great. (Or alternatively, the less work each person has to do. Either way, it works out ;))
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on November 15, 2009, 11:10:05 PM
The things hosted by Wikia don't let people under 13 sign up.  I know I *could* lie, but that's something I just don't like to do.  Ah well, I can put up with ads for the remainder of this month and then until December 20th.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: GuyPerfect on November 16, 2009, 02:45:47 AM
I was involved with another wiki project for a while that was hosted on Wikia briefly. They flat-out broke the contract the wiki's administrator signed with them, and they started letting the ads go rampant. They gave us back the domain name and let us leave with only moderate legal threat.

I'm against Wikia on principle. It's run by a bunch of scumbags and the ads WILL get worse.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on November 16, 2009, 04:16:28 AM
Care to tell us what this wiki was about?

I knew they were a bit dodgy with their "for-profit"-ness, but I've not heard anything terrible about them previously.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on November 16, 2009, 04:34:36 AM
We should protest!  Host our own Wiki!  I'm sick of seeing World of Warcraft ****ing everywhere (also, those Lord of the Rings ads are pretty distracting, so I'm going to have to agree with Ubuntu forums logic - Try to avoid animated images for avatars, they are way too distracting.  Same with ads).  Plus, if anything, an ad will make me hate a product even more.  Sometime I'll probably get shot for my extreme stance against WoW. :P
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Minim on November 20, 2009, 07:32:56 AM
Care to tell us what this wiki was about?

The problem is that Lemmings was a game made back in the early 90's, so only a few people would remember it, yet the Wiki stuff was made too late. :P Remember the PSP version? That was made in 2006 and it may have caught some people's attention. But the PSP version was released nearly 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Clam on November 20, 2009, 07:35:02 AM
I'm against Wikia on principle. It's run by a bunch of scumbags and the ads WILL get worse.

Speak of the devil... they just did. I went there just now and got an ad that doesn't move off the screen when you scroll. I've never had that on Wikia before. :-\


We should protest!  Host our own Wiki!

How feasible is that? Do we have enough server space to host one?
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Pooty on November 20, 2009, 08:15:50 AM
Here's the requirements to have a MediaWiki-style wiki installed. You don't need 50MB to set it up, but it's a good idea to have more.

This website also has the required MySQL and PHP. Not sure about the other requirements.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on November 23, 2009, 12:12:07 AM
I'm against Wikia on principle. It's run by a bunch of scumbags and the ads WILL get worse.

Speak of the devil... they just did. I went there just now and got an ad that doesn't move off the screen when you scroll. I've never had that on Wikia before. :-\

"Lemmings Wiki.  Adblock Plus & Flashblock required."  :XD:
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: danparker on December 13, 2009, 04:34:47 AM
Since I've created an account on the Wikias when I worked on the Thomas The Tank Engine and Theodore Tugboat wikias, I think I might stop by here someday and edit, too.
Title: Re: Lemmings Wiki
Post by: Dullstar on December 21, 2009, 10:23:14 PM
If I don't do this only anonymously, I would probably have to set up another email address just because when they say they won't spam, I don't trust them.