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Autum2016Contest VOTING ROUND 3!

What A Bonnie Wee Level - Flopsy
2 (25%)
Sugar Honey Ice Tea - GigaLem
2 (25%)
Victory is Inevitable! - IchoTolot
2 (25%)
Slaughterhouse - mobius
2 (25%)

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Voting closed: January 12, 2017, 02:14:06 PM

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2016, 02:59:12 AM »
after a little quick searching I have no idea what's causing the problem with my level. The issue could likely be something wrong with the graphic set; this was my first time putting together a set and using the Graphic set tool.
Maybe tomorrow or over the weekend I'll try recompiling the graphic set.

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2016, 03:24:20 AM »
Link to the first video of my video playthrough :): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApiwSlvyWN0

Also I attached all of my solution replays for further investigation here. Positions based on Flopsy's nxp.

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2016, 10:32:49 AM »
Namida's Levels
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Your solution to The Doubly-Hard-For-Flopsy level is a backroute quite similar to the one Flopsy found; the updated version has two fixes to prevent this kind of backroute.

Your solution to Stoned Steps is also a backroute, I'll put a fix up soon.
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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2016, 12:45:25 PM »
Rule 2 time... or the first half of them anyway.

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2016, 09:14:51 PM »
Rule 1:

On The Dancefloor - Flopsy

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Sugar Honey Ice Tea - GigaLem

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Rule 2

Tunnel Trouble - BulletRide

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Great Scott - Colorful Arty

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What A Bonnie Wee Level! - Flopsy

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Slaughterhouse - Mobius

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The Doubly-Hard-For-Flopsy Level - Level 7 (Author field was blank)

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I Get Around - Roundthewheel

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Rule 3

Return of the Beast - Colorful Arty

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It's turbo Time - Mobius

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Not All Heroes Wear Capes - Roundthewheel

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So far, this has been a really fun contest! I'll keep trying the levels I couldn't beat, like Hardhats Required. Man that one's hard. :'(

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2016, 12:13:15 AM »
Yes you did backroute What A Bonnie Wee Level zanzindorf, nice backroute there, didn't think of that one!

Fixed it and updated it anyway.

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2016, 06:36:33 AM »
Your solution to The Doubly-Hard-For-Flopsy level is a backroute. The updated version already prevents your solution from working as-is, but I'll need to test it more to see if the overall idea of your solution can be made to work with a few changes...
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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2016, 07:58:32 AM »
Phew that was a lot of levels. One of Icho's level with the cave graphic set I couldn't get to work so I haven't played that one yet.


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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2016, 10:36:12 AM »
Phew that was a lot of levels. One of Icho's level with the cave graphic set I couldn't get to work so I haven't played that one yet.

Couldn't get to work?  :lem-shocked:  Which error did you get? I attached the tileset again right out of my styles folder just in case.

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2016, 05:44:47 PM »
For the NXP version it would say that the graphic set could not be found then close. Downloaded the style and it works fine now.

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2016, 05:53:40 PM »
For the NXP version it would say that the graphic set could not be found then close. Downloaded the style and it works fine now.

Then it's simply that the cavelem tileset was not included in the nxp in the first place + you also hadn't it before playing. Good thing that everything is fine now :)

You could download my whole L2+ L3 pack so you got everyone of the styles as they are widely used anyway: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2228.0

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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2016, 12:57:45 AM »
I failed to make it clear that if you're downloading the loose levels; you must install the L2+L3 graphic sets (which are included in the folder there); some of them are used by multiple entries.
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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2016, 08:41:06 AM »
Played the updated levels... Flopsy's V2 still unsolved for now.

Evolution Of Lem
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Doubly-Hard-For-Flopsy V2
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Stoned Steps V2
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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2016, 10:40:51 AM »
The Doubly-Hard-For-Flopsy Level is still a backroute, though far less severely than it was before. I'll have to think about how to fix this one.

Stoned Steps is the intended solution.
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Re: Autumn 2016 LD Contest [Discussion]
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2016, 05:33:42 PM »
Alternative solution, but not a backroute. 2 tricks I intended you simply replaced them with 2 other equally clever ones (especially that basher turning on steel was not on my list :P). Maybe I will make some changes, but I doubt so right now --- when nobody actually backroutes it ;).

Great to hear you liked it! :) It is 100% not created to win here as it's probably way too long for that, but I just want to get a bit of exactly that solution feedback!