Author Topic: Hurt and Heal (Read 76417 times)

mobius · « **on:** December 28, 2013, 12:06:03 AM »

there is a list of lemmings levels. Whoever starts a new round selects the game and levels from the game. We can do official games or custom level packs.
To play, select one level to hurt by subtracting 2 and one level to heal by adding 1
All levels start with 10 points.
When a level reaches 0 it is eliminated. If a level has only 1 point remaining and you want to remove it you must give a -1 on that level and a -1 on another (and still a +1 on a third).
don't double post.

First game: Original Lemmings

Steel Works 8 [-2]
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 10
The Crossroads 10
Down, along, up. In that order 10
One way or another 10
Poles Apart 10
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11 [+1]

ccexplore · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2013, 12:38:12 AM »

-2 The Crossroads, +1 It's Hero Time!

Steel Works 8
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 11
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 10
One way or another 10
Poles Apart 10
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

============

Kinda wonder if you should've started with a shorter list of levels, this round may last quite a while and we'd be stuck with the same levels all this time...

namida · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2013, 12:40:38 AM »

Can we split the -2 across two different levels? Usually it's allowed in Hurt & Heals if hurt is more than one point... (and especially since you say we should do that if there's only one point left)

I will:
-1 Steel Works
-1 Down Along Up
+1 It's Hero Time

Steel Works 7
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 12
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 9
One way or another 10
Poles Apart 10
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

arttu98 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2013, 09:05:31 AM »

-2 Down, along, up. in that order
+1 Steel Works

Steel Works 8
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 12
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 7
One way or another 10
Poles Apart 10
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

grams88 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2013, 12:25:37 PM »

This sounds fun

I'm going to hurt (-2 = One way or another)

I'm going to heal (+1 = It's Hero Time)

Steel Works 8
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 13
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 7
One way or another 8
Poles Apart 10
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

Proxima · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2013, 05:56:37 PM »

Steel Works 9 [+1]
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 13
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 7
One way or another 8
Poles Apart 8 [-2]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

mobius · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2013, 07:01:14 PM »

Steel Works 9
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 14 [+1]
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 7
One way or another 6 [-2]
Poles Apart 8
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

namida · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2013, 04:17:25 AM »

Hm, I'mma give both -'s to DAUITO this time, since it's at a lower score.

Steel Works 9
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 15 [+1]
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 5 [-2]
One way or another 6
Poles Apart 8
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

Clam · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2013, 07:24:26 AM »

Steel Works 8 [-1]
The Boiler Room 9 [-1]
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 5
One way or another 6
Poles Apart 9 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

Proxima · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2013, 01:51:05 PM »

Hero Time is just obviously going to win, why bother going through with the process?

Steel Works 8
The Boiler Room 9
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 6 [+1]
One way or another 6
Poles Apart 7 [-2]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11

mobius · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2013, 12:15:02 AM »

would you liked to abandon this game and pick a tougher choice of levels? A custom pack perhaps? the problem is not enough people would know it. I

Steel Works 6 [-2]
The Boiler Room 9
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 6
One way or another 6
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12 [+1]

grams88 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2013, 01:16:47 AM »

Hi mobius

What about every lemmings tribe level, I know that might sound a bit crazy.

Clam · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2013, 08:35:23 AM »

I guess this would work better if we're ambivalent towards most of the choices, otherwise it's like a poll. (Or is that the point and I just don't get this game

)

Suggestions:

Tame levels
A selection of the more useless L2 skills (hoppers, divers, spearers...)
Obscure ports of Lemmings

Simon · « **Reply #13 on:** December 30, 2013, 09:08:23 AM »

Quote from: Clam Spammer on 2013-12-30 02:35:23

I guess this would work better if we're ambivalent towards most of the choices

We could also vote on tomato, broccoli, eggplant, and leek, that is bound to produce fun results :]

Steel Works 6
The Boiler Room 10 [+1]
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 4 [-2]
One way or another 6
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

-- Simon

namida · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2013, 02:31:22 PM »

Steel Works 6
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 16 [+1]
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 2 [-2]
One way or another 6
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

Clam · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2013, 01:38:58 AM »

Steel Works 6
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 14 [-2]
The Crossroads 8
Down, along, up. In that order 2
One way or another 7 [+1]
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

ccexplore · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2013, 07:21:50 AM »

Alright, time for an elimination finally. $:-\$

Steel Works 6
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 15 [+1]
The Crossroads 8
~~Down, along, up. In that order~~ 0 [-2]
One way or another 7
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

===========================

I like Clam's idea of "useless L2 skills" for the next game. Also, the initial scores should probably be lower (like maybe 5 instead of 10) so this only drags on half as long? (Or perhaps we can double the hurt/heal values every now and then to speed things up.)

Another possible twist (though not exactly helping the game speed-wise) is that for people having gone multiple times in the same game, they must avoid re-choosing any of their previous choices for as long as possible.

Yet another random idea: people can guess the N-th eliminated level (they pick the N), and if they get that right they get some extra power to hurt/heal for one time. I guess we'd need to figure out how exactly to allocate the extra power based on how many people got it right, how early/late did they declare the guess compared to the time of elimination, etc. Perhaps we can look into additional such types of "side bets" one can make in exchange for bonus hurt/heal power.

Clam · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2014, 07:56:07 AM »

Steel Works 4 [-2]
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 9 [+1]
One way or another 7
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

mobius · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2014, 12:52:35 AM »

Steel Works 2 [-2]
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 10 [+1]
One way or another 7
Poles Apart 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

Proxima · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2014, 01:37:27 AM »

Steel Works 2
The Boiler Room 10
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 10
One way or another 8 [+1]
Poles Apart 5 [-2]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

ccexplore · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2014, 02:51:20 AM »

~~Steel Works~~ 0 [-2]
The Boiler Room 11 [+1]
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 10
One way or another 8
Poles Apart 5
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12

======================

I think for this round, from now on you can count on me to participate only whenever there's a level to eliminate.

mobius · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2014, 11:21:36 PM »

The Boiler Room 11
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 10
One way or another 8
Poles Apart 3 [-2]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 13 [+1]

--
I started with 10 because the other forum I found this game people post at least once every hour. A lower number may be more appropriate here. Want me to lower the current scores like I did on PimoLems?

Proxima · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2014, 11:26:29 PM »

The Boiler Room 10 [-1]
It's Hero Time! 15
The Crossroads 10
One way or another 8
Poles Apart 2 [-1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 14 [+1]

mobius · « **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2014, 12:12:48 AM »

The Boiler Room 6
It's Hero Time! 11
The Crossroads 6
One way or another 4
~~Poles Apart 0 [-2]~~
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11 [+1]

[EDIT: all scores reduced by four]

Proxima · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2014, 02:00:40 AM »

Don't like to post twice with only one person in between, but this hasn't moved for a couple of days.

The Boiler Room 4 [-2]
It's Hero Time! 11
The Crossroads 6
One way or another 4
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12 [+1]

Clam · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2014, 02:04:54 AM »

Quote from: Proxima on 2014-01-10 20:00:40

Don't like to post twice with only one person in between, but this hasn't moved for a couple of days.

I like the "two post rule" too

The Boiler Room 4
It's Hero Time! 9 [-2]
The Crossroads 6
One way or another 4
Last one out is a rotten egg! 13 [+1]

mobius · « **Reply #26 on:** January 11, 2014, 03:18:53 AM »

The Boiler Room 4
It's Hero Time! 7 [-2]
The Crossroads 7 [+1]
One way or another 4
Last one out is a rotten egg! 13

yeah screw Hero Time!

(

)

Proxima · « **Reply #27 on:** January 11, 2014, 04:09:04 PM »

An unexpected turn of events!

The Boiler Room 4
It's Hero Time! 7
The Crossroads 5 [-2]
One way or another 5 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 13

Clam · « **Reply #28 on:** January 12, 2014, 08:49:40 AM »

Let's create a four-way tie for last place!

The Boiler Room 5 [+1]
It's Hero Time! 5 [-2]
The Crossroads 5
One way or another 5
Last one out is a rotten egg! 13

mobius · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:50:35 PM »

The Boiler Room 5
It's Hero Time! 5
The Crossroads 5
One way or another 3 [-2]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 14 [+1]

~~i don't think crossroads gets enough attention... $:-\$~~
I want this game to be over sooner than later

Proxima · « **Reply #30 on:** January 12, 2014, 08:12:25 PM »

Quote

i don't think crossroads gets enough attention... $:-\$

Then I'll give it some attention

The Boiler Room 5
It's Hero Time! 5
The Crossroads 3 [-2]
One way or another 4 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 14

Clam · « **Reply #31 on:** January 12, 2014, 08:19:37 PM »

Quote from: Proxima on 2014-01-12 14:12:25

Quote
i don't think crossroads gets enough attention... $:-\$
Then I'll give it some attention

You asked for it

The Boiler Room 6 [+1]
It's Hero Time! 5
The Crossroads 1 [-2]
One way or another 4
Last one out is a rotten egg! 14

mobius · « **Reply #32 on:** January 13, 2014, 07:30:57 PM »

The Boiler Room 6
It's Hero Time! 5
~~The Crossroads 0 [-1]~~
One way or another 3 [-1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 15 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #33 on:** January 13, 2014, 10:47:53 PM »

The Boiler Room 4 [-2]
It's Hero Time! 5
One way or another 4 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 15

Clam · « **Reply #34 on:** January 14, 2014, 04:46:54 AM »

The Boiler Room 2 [-2]
It's Hero Time! 5
One way or another 5 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 15

2*5+5=15

Pieuw · « **Reply #35 on:** January 16, 2014, 07:59:56 AM »

The Boiler Room 3 [+1]
It's Hero Time! 3 [-2]
One way or another 5
Last one out is a rotten egg! 15

Proxima · « **Reply #36 on:** January 16, 2014, 04:15:41 PM »

Well, I love "Last one out" but I think it's time to reduce its ridiculous lead.

The Boiler Room 3
It's Hero Time! 3
One way or another 6 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 13 [-2]

ccexplore · « **Reply #37 on:** January 16, 2014, 07:45:34 PM »

I concur.

The Boiler Room 3
It's Hero Time! 3
One way or another 7 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 11 [-2]

Clam · « **Reply #38 on:** January 16, 2014, 08:23:39 PM »

I... disagree

The Boiler Room 3
It's Hero Time! 1 [-2]
One way or another 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 12 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #39 on:** January 19, 2014, 01:25:47 AM »

Tempting. But no. Not quite yet.

The Boiler Room 3
It's Hero Time! 2 [+1]
One way or another 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 10 [-2]

Simon · « **Reply #40 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:46:10 AM »

The Boiler Room 4 [+1]
It's Hero Time! 2
One way or another 7
Last one out is a rotten egg! 8 [-2]

-- Simon

ccexplore · « **Reply #41 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:01:56 AM »

The Boiler Room 2 [-2]
It's Hero Time! 2
One way or another 8 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 8

Clam · « **Reply #42 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:34:53 AM »

It's zero time!

The Boiler Room 2
~~It's Hero Time!~~ 0 [-2]
One way or another 9 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 8

ccexplore · « **Reply #43 on:** January 19, 2014, 09:16:34 AM »

~~The Boiler Room~~ 0 [-2]
One way or another 9
Last one out is a rotten egg! 9 [+1]

Akseli · « **Reply #44 on:** January 19, 2014, 12:47:26 PM »

One way or another 10 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 7 [-2]

Pieuw · « **Reply #45 on:** January 19, 2014, 01:53:26 PM »

One way or another 8 [-2]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 8 [+1]

This will be a hard fight!

Proxima · « **Reply #46 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:31:27 PM »

One way or another 9 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 6 [-2]

Clam · « **Reply #47 on:** January 20, 2014, 01:29:13 AM »

One way or another 10 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 4 [-2]

ccexplore · « **Reply #48 on:** January 24, 2014, 07:43:33 PM »

Almost there?
(though to be fair, I only hurt/heal this way just to provide the opportunity...)

One way or another 11 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 2 [-2]

Proxima · « **Reply #49 on:** January 24, 2014, 08:20:37 PM »

Almost there.

One way or another 12 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 0 [-2]

"One way or another" is the first-round winner!

~~Is it okay~~ möbius says it's okay for me to choose levels for the next round

I choose.... Tricky 21 showdown!

All the 6's 6
Sixes Not 6
Ohayo Lemming-san 6
Don't leave any Lemmings 6
Going Their Separate Ways 6

Clam · « **Reply #50 on:** January 25, 2014, 01:14:48 AM »

Excellent choice!

All the 6's 6
Sixes Not 6
Ohayo Lemming-san 6
Don't leave any Lemmings 4 [-2]
Going Their Separate Ways 7 [+1]

mobius · « **Reply #51 on:** January 25, 2014, 03:53:00 AM »

All the 6's 7 [+1]
Sixes Not 4 [-2]
Ohayo Lemming-san 6
Don't leave any Lemmings 4
Going Their Separate Ways 7

[I know i once said I don't like that level but Idk why. that changed.] anyway, some of these I don't recognize. Where/what is Sixes Not and Don't leave any lemmings from? Also why is it called tricky 21

ccexplore · « **Reply #52 on:** January 25, 2014, 08:12:10 AM »

Quote from: möbius on 2014-01-24 21:53:00

Also why is it called tricky 21

They are all the 21st levels in rating Tricky from various ports of original Lemmings. "All the 6s" of course is from the standard PC/Amiga/AtariST versions. "Ohayo..." is from Super Nintendo, "Going..." from Mac. I don't remember for sure the other two (I want to say "Sixes Not" is from Nintendo though, and probably Sega Genesis [aka Megadrive] for the other one?).

Anyhow...

All the 6's 6 [-1]
Sixes Not 4
Ohayo Lemming-san 5 [-1]
Don't leave any Lemmings 4
Going Their Separate Ways 8 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #53 on:** January 25, 2014, 10:51:52 AM »

Sixes Not is from the Sega Master System version, and Don't leave any Lemmings is from the Genesis/Megadrive.

All the 6's 5 [-1]
Sixes Not 3 [-1]
Ohayo Lemming-san 5
Don't leave any Lemmings 5 [+1]
Going Their Separate Ways 8

Clam · « **Reply #54 on:** January 27, 2014, 06:02:29 AM »

All the 6's 6 [+1]
Sixes Not 3
Ohayo Lemming-san 3 [-2]
Don't leave any Lemmings 5
Going Their Separate Ways 8

Minim · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2014, 09:14:42 AM »

Quote from: Clam Spammer on 2014-01-13 22:46:54

The Boiler Room 2 [-2]
It's Hero Time! 5
One way or another 5 [+1]
Last one out is a rotten egg! 15

2*5+5=15

That's very clever.
Anyway, first post on the Hurt & Heal...

All the 6's 6
Sixes Not 1 [-2]
Ohayo Lemming-san 3
Don't leave any Lemmings 6 [+1]
Going Their Separate Ways 8

Proxima · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2014, 01:16:47 PM »

All the 6's 4 [-2]
Sixes Not 1
Ohayo Lemming-san 3
Don't leave any Lemmings 6
Going Their Separate Ways 9 [+1]

Minim · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2014, 04:09:56 PM »

All the 6's 3 [-1]
~~Sixes Not~~ 0 [-1]
Ohayo Lemming-san 3
Don't leave any Lemmings 6
Going Their Separate Ways 10 [+1]

Clam · « **Reply #58 on:** February 04, 2014, 08:32:29 PM »

All the 6's 4 [+1]
Ohayo Lemming-san 3
Don't leave any Lemmings 4 [-2]
Going Their Separate Ways 10

(edit: accounted for fix above)

Proxima · « **Reply #59 on:** February 04, 2014, 08:59:16 PM »

Note: All the 6's has one less because minimac put [-1] but forgot to actually subtract 1.

All the 6's 2 [-2]
Ohayo Lemming-san 3
Don't leave any Lemmings 5 [+1]
Going Their Separate Ways 10

ccexplore · « **Reply #60 on:** February 04, 2014, 09:19:39 PM »

Tempting...but I shall go against the tide this time:

All the 6's 3 [+1]
Ohayo Lemming-san 3
Don't leave any Lemmings 5
Going Their Separate Ways 8 [-2]

Minim · « **Reply #61 on:** February 06, 2014, 09:13:14 PM »

Quote from: Proxima on 2014-02-04 14:59:16

Note: All the 6's has one less because minimac put [-1] but forgot to actually subtract 1.

Well spotted! I've fixed that now.
Back to the game...

All the 6's 3
Ohayo Lemming-san 1 [-2]
Don't leave any Lemmings 5
Going Their Separate Ways 9 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #62 on:** February 06, 2014, 09:23:52 PM »

All the 6's 1 [-2]
Ohayo Lemming-san 1
Don't leave any Lemmings 5
Going Their Separate Ways 10 [+1]

ccexplore · « **Reply #63 on:** February 06, 2014, 10:37:37 PM »

Ooh, double elimination! double elimination! No way I'll pass that one up.

~~All the 6's 0~~ [-1]
~~Ohayo Lemming-san 0~~ [-1]
Don't leave any Lemmings 6 [+1]
Going Their Separate Ways 10

Clam · « **Reply #64 on:** February 07, 2014, 07:39:05 AM »

Don't leave any Lemmings 7 [+1]
Going Their Separate Ways 8 [-2]

1v1, game on!

Proxima · « **Reply #65 on:** February 07, 2014, 02:15:56 PM »

All the Fire levels lost, and the Marble levels remain!

Don't leave any Lemmings 5 [-2]
Going Their Separate Ways 9 [+1]

Minim · « **Reply #66 on:** February 07, 2014, 04:31:50 PM »

Don't leave any Lemmings 3 [-2]
Going Their Separate Ways 10 [+1]

Clam · « **Reply #67 on:** February 10, 2014, 03:33:45 AM »

Don't leave any Lemmings 1 [-2]
Going Their Separate Ways 11 [+1]

Minim · « **Reply #68 on:** February 10, 2014, 12:01:03 PM »

Don't leave any lemmings 0 [-1]
Going their Separate Ways 11 [+1] [-1] (Is that allowed?)

OK, we have a winner. Right, here's a random idea from the spreadsheet, how about 8-builder levels? There are 7 of them from Orig and OhNo altogether. Let's start each level with 6 points each.

Here's the list:
If at first you don't succeed.. 6
Lemming Rhythms 6
Meeting Adjourned 6
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 6
This Corrosion 6

Akseli · « **Reply #69 on:** February 10, 2014, 12:13:20 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 4 [-2]
Lemming Rhythms 6
Meeting Adjourned 6
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 6
This Corrosion 7 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #70 on:** February 10, 2014, 12:48:53 PM »

This should be interesting. A seemingly arbitrary criterion has ended up with a selection of several of my favourite levels....

If at first you don't succeed.. 5 [+1]
Lemming Rhythms 4 [-2]
Meeting Adjourned 6
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 6
This Corrosion 7

mobius · « **Reply #71 on:** February 10, 2014, 05:55:13 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 4
Meeting Adjourned 6
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 4 [-2]
This Corrosion 8 [+1]

grams88 · « **Reply #72 on:** February 10, 2014, 07:53:30 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 2 (-2)
Meeting Adjourned 6
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 7 (+1)
Scaling the Heights 4
This Corrosion 8

ccexplore · « **Reply #73 on:** February 10, 2014, 08:31:57 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 2
Meeting Adjourned 4 [-2]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 7
Scaling the Heights 5 [+1]
This Corrosion 8

Clam · « **Reply #74 on:** February 10, 2014, 09:58:00 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 2
Meeting Adjourned 4
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 5 [-2]
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #75 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:10:58 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5½ [+½]
Lemming Rhythms 2
Meeting Adjourned 2 [-2]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 6
ROCKY VI 5½ [+½]
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9

Minim · « **Reply #76 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:29:51 PM »

Personally I don't like halves, but maybe that's part of the fun I guess, as long as the total is one less than the previous post...

If at first you don't succeed.. 5 [-½]
Lemming Rhythms 2
Meeting Adjourned 3 [+1]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 4 [-2]
ROCKY VI 6 [+½]
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9

ccexplore · « **Reply #77 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:36:00 PM »

Haha, I'm so tempted to do 1/6 now...but nah:

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 3 [+1]
Meeting Adjourned 3
POOR WEE CREATURES! 3 [-1]
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 8 [-1]

mobius · « **Reply #78 on:** February 10, 2014, 11:34:55 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 1 [-2]
Meeting Adjourned 3
POOR WEE CREATURES! 4 [+1]
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 8

Proxima · « **Reply #79 on:** February 10, 2014, 11:50:17 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
Lemming Rhythms 1
Meeting Adjourned 1 [-2]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 5 [+1]
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 8

Clam · « **Reply #80 on:** February 10, 2014, 11:54:06 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 3 [-2]
Lemming Rhythms 1
Meeting Adjourned 1
POOR WEE CREATURES! 5
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9 [+1]

ccexplore · « **Reply #81 on:** February 11, 2014, 01:04:59 AM »

I was waiting for a double-elimination, here we go:

If at first you don't succeed.. 3
~~Lemming Rhythms 0~~ [-1]
~~Meeting Adjourned 0~~ [-1]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 5
ROCKY VI 7 [+1]
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9

mobius · « **Reply #82 on:** February 11, 2014, 03:35:01 AM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 1 [-2]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 5
ROCKY VI 7
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 10 [+1]

boy, this game is moving quickly

Minim · « **Reply #83 on:** February 11, 2014, 06:45:38 AM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 1
POOR WEE CREATURES! 4 [-1]
ROCKY VI 6 [-1]
Scaling the Heights 6 [+1]
This Corrosion 10

Akseli · « **Reply #84 on:** February 11, 2014, 07:46:20 AM »

Quote from: minimac on 2014-02-10 16:29:51

Personally I don't like halves, but maybe that's part of the fun I guess, as long as the total is one less than the previous post...

If at first you don't succeed.. 5 [-½]
Lemming Rhythms 2
Meeting Adjourned 3 [+1]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 4 [-2]
ROCKY VI 6 [+½]
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9

You just gave +1,5 points and -2,5 points? $:-\$ That's too many.

If at first you don't succeed.. 1
POOR WEE CREATURES! 2 [-2]
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 6
This Corrosion 11 [+1]

Proxima · « **Reply #85 on:** February 11, 2014, 12:10:12 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 2 [+1]
POOR WEE CREATURES! 2
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 4 [-2]
This Corrosion 11

Minim · « **Reply #86 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:21:14 AM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 3 [+1]
~~POOR WEE CREATURES! 0~~ [-2]
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 4
This Corrosion 11

Clam · « **Reply #87 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:31:05 AM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 3
ROCKY VI 6
Scaling the Heights 5 [+1]
This Corrosion 9 [-2]

Minim · « **Reply #88 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:46:37 AM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 4 [+1]
ROCKY VI 4 [-2]
Scaling the Heights 5
This Corrosion 9

Proxima · « **Reply #89 on:** February 12, 2014, 04:37:06 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5 [+1]
ROCKY VI 4
Scaling the Heights 3 [-2]
This Corrosion 9

mobius · « **Reply #90 on:** February 12, 2014, 10:06:15 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 5
ROCKY VI 5 [+1]
Scaling the Heights 1 [-2]
This Corrosion 9

Rocky VI is one of the few rock levels in ONML I really like. I feel the rock terrain got a bad deal.

Minim · « **Reply #91 on:** February 13, 2014, 07:58:04 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 6 [+1]
ROCKY VI 4 [-1]
Scaling the Heights 1
This Corrosion 8 [-1]

Simon · « **Reply #92 on:** February 13, 2014, 08:33:54 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 4 [-2]
ROCKY VI 4
Scaling the Heights 2 [+1]
This Corrosion 8

Scaling the heights has an amazing route around the bottom and left of the exit.

-- Simon

Akseli · « **Reply #93 on:** February 13, 2014, 09:30:04 PM »

If at first you don't succeed.. 2 [-2]
ROCKY VI 4
Scaling the Heights 2
This Corrosion 9 [+1]

Simon · « **Reply #94 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:03:54 PM »

~~If at first you don't succeed.. 0~~ [-2]
ROCKY VI 4
Scaling the Heights 3 [+1]
This Corrosion 9

-- Simon

Minim · « **Reply #95 on:** February 14, 2014, 05:07:04 AM »

The only original level in the "competition" has been eliminated. Never mind.

ROCKY VI 3 [-1]
Scaling the Heights 4 [+1]
This Corrosion 8 [-1]

Proxima · « **Reply #96 on:** February 14, 2014, 01:43:20 PM »

ROCKY VI 3
Scaling the Heights 2 [-2]
This Corrosion 9 [+1]

Akseli · « **Reply #97 on:** February 14, 2014, 11:48:06 PM »

ROCKY VI 1 [-2]
Scaling the Heights 2
This Corrosion 10 [+1]

Clam · « **Reply #98 on:** February 15, 2014, 12:30:10 AM »

ROCKY VI 1
Scaling the Heights 3 [+1]
This Corrosion 8 [-2]

Proxima · « **Reply #99 on:** February 15, 2014, 12:49:43 AM »

Epic Magic Incantation: Summon Ccexplore!

ROCKY VI 1
Scaling the Heights 1 [-2]
This Corrosion 9 [+1]

Minim · « **Reply #100 on:** February 15, 2014, 05:53:26 AM »

Quote from: Proxima on 2014-02-14 18:49:43

Epic Magic Incantation: Summon Ccexplore!

LOL! but within the past 24 hours he has been inactive, so let me do the next move...

ROCKY VI 2 [+1]
Scaling the Heights 1
This Corrosion 7 [-2]

Simon · « **Reply #101 on:** February 15, 2014, 06:23:35 AM »

ROCKY VI 2
Scaling the Heights 2 [+1]
This Corrosion 5 [-2]

Nan nan nan.

-- Simon

Clam · « **Reply #102 on:** February 15, 2014, 07:15:31 AM »

ROCKY VI 3 [+1]
Scaling the Heights 2
This Corrosion 3 [-2]

Now it will take at least three turns to end

Minim · « **Reply #103 on:** February 15, 2014, 07:59:07 AM »

ROCKY VI 2 [-1]
Scaling the Heights 3 [+1]
This Corrosion 2 [-1]

Time to switch the numbers around.

Akseli · « **Reply #104 on:** February 15, 2014, 10:21:39 AM »

ROCKY VI 1 [-1]
Scaling the Heights 2 [-1]
This Corrosion 3 [+1]

Minim · « **Reply #105 on:** February 15, 2014, 10:44:48 AM »

~~ROCKY VI~~ 0 [-1] (Had enough of capital letters anyway)
Scaling the Heights 3 [+1]
This Corrosion 2 [-1]

Akseli · « **Reply #106 on:** February 15, 2014, 11:31:52 AM »

Scaling the Heights 1 [-2]
This Corrosion 3 [+1]

ccexplore · « **Reply #107 on:** February 15, 2014, 01:28:06 PM »

Nuts, I missed the double-elimination due to busy days at work. Then again I'm not sure if I would've done it, as I'm more indifferent to This Corrosion compared to apparently many people here. $:-\$

On that note:

Scaling the Heights 2 [+1]
This Corrosion 1 [-2]

Proxima · « **Reply #108 on:** February 15, 2014, 07:21:02 PM »

Makes sense, as I think you were the first to find the steel-digging backroute? But now that playing it in Lix prevents that, it is returned to its glory as one of the best puzzle levels. Therefore:

~~Scaling the Heights 0 [-2]~~
This Corrosion 2 [+1]

Shall I choose next again, or does someone else want a turn?

Clam · « **Reply #109 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:42:48 PM »

Let's take one turn each until there are no volunteers.

---

FAN! I choose the fanning skills from Lemmings 2. The ordering is taken from the practice mode selection screen.

There are more items than the last two rounds, so we'll start each with 5 points.

Ballooner: 5
Magic Carpet: 5
Surfer: 5
Parachuter: 5
Jet Pack: 5
Twister: 5
Icarus Wings: 5
Hang Glider: 5

Proxima · « **Reply #110 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:55:24 PM »

My exposure to Lemmings 2 is limited to a couple of visits to friends when I was a kid, but I do remember how obnoxiously difficult it was to control the Twister, so....

Ballooner: 5
Magic Carpet: 5
Surfer: 5
Parachuter: 6 [+1]
Jet Pack: 5
Twister: 3 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 5
Hang Glider: 5

ccexplore · « **Reply #111 on:** February 16, 2014, 08:34:56 AM »

For reference, the Lemmings Encyclopedia has a brief description of each Lemmings 2 skill here. Granted, it won't tell you anything about maneuverability and the like......

+1 to twister only because it reminds me of Clam's neat custom Lemmings 2 level featuring 1 single twister for the entire level.
As for hurts, hmm...so many choices, I think I'll spread it out this time.

Ballooner: 5
Magic Carpet: 4 [-1]
Surfer: 5
Parachuter: 6
Jet Pack: 4 [-1]
Twister: 4 [+1]
Icarus Wings: 5
Hang Glider: 5

grams88 · « **Reply #112 on:** February 16, 2014, 11:59:31 AM »

Ballooner: 5
Magic Carpet: 2 (-2)
Surfer: 5
Parachuter: 6
Jet Pack: 4
Twister: 5 (+1)
Icarus Wings: 5
Hang Glider: 5

One of my favorite levels in the game is Level 9 from the shadow tribe, this level was called (Spinny Thang) which involved good use of using the twister to escape.

The magic carpet skill would probably be my least favorite because of being hard to control but that's what makes the game fun.

By the way there's been a lets play of lemmings two the tribes, been watching it myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj4kgA7ZMBE

Minim · « **Reply #113 on:** February 16, 2014, 03:52:26 PM »

Quite an innovative idea to choose skills instead of levels!

Ballooner: 6 (+1)
~~Magic Carpet: 0 (-2)~~
Surfer: 5
Parachuter: 6
Jet Pack: 4
Twister: 5
Icarus Wings: 5
Hang Glider: 5

I haven't played much L2, but I remember how hard it was controlling the carpet.

" title="Angry" class="smiley" /> That circus level was so annoying.

Simon · « **Reply #114 on:** February 16, 2014, 05:15:35 PM »

Ballooner: 6
Surfer: 3 [-2] <-- it's too much like kayaker
Parachuter: 6
Jet Pack: 4
Twister: 5
Icarus Wings: 6 [+1]
Hang Glider: 5

-- Simon

Clam · « **Reply #115 on:** February 16, 2014, 10:50:19 PM »

Ballooner: 6
Surfer: 3
Parachuter: 4 [-2] (because it sways uselessly from side to side making it land in bad places)
Jet Pack: 4
Twister: 5
Icarus Wings: 6
Hang Glider: 6 [+1]

Simon · « **Reply #116 on:** February 17, 2014, 12:14:23 AM »

Ballooner: 6
Surfer: 3
Parachuter: 4
Jet Pack: 4
Twister: 3 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 6
Hang Glider: 7 [+1] Yah, hang glider very good.

-- Simon

ccexplore · « **Reply #117 on:** February 17, 2014, 02:51:07 AM »

+1 this time goes to the Surfer, but only because of this dramatic glitch. Otherwise yeah it seems pretty useless.

-1x2 this time goes to...(throws dice)...hang glider and parachuter. Nothing horribly wrong with hang glider, but by comparison the Icarus Wings seem slightly more versatile (IIRC it allows for change in left/right direction unlike hang glider, plus it is slower and not subjected to gravity IIRC). Parachuter Clam already explained.

Ballooner: 6
Surfer: 4 [+1]
Parachuter: 3 [-1]
Jet Pack: 4
Twister: 3
Icarus Wings: 6
Hang Glider: 6 [-1]

Clam · « **Reply #118 on:** February 17, 2014, 03:26:51 AM »

Funny how skills generate discussion now, when the levels didn't

. Do we need a Skills Review topic to go with the level reviews?

Ballooner: 7 [+1 for working perfectly well IN SPACE despite the low gravity and air pressure]
Surfer: 3 [-1 for having a time limit, which as we all know is a very bad thing]
Parachuter: 3
Jet Pack: 3 [-1 for the same reason]
Twister: 3
Icarus Wings: 6
Hang Glider: 6

Minim · « **Reply #119 on:** February 18, 2014, 06:07:11 AM »

Ballooner: 7
Surfer: 2 [-1]
Parachuter: 3
Jet Pack: 3
Twister: 4 [+1]
Icarus Wings: 5 [-1]
Hang Glider: 6

Clam · « **Reply #120 on:** February 20, 2014, 01:28:17 AM »

Ballooner: 7
Surfer: 2
Parachuter: 1 [-2]
Jet Pack: 3
Twister: 4
Icarus Wings: 6 [+1]
Hang Glider: 6

ccexplore · « **Reply #121 on:** February 20, 2014, 02:54:07 AM »

Ballooner: 8 [+1]
Surfer: 2
Parachuter: 1
Jet Pack: 1 [-2] purely for setting up a possible double-elimination

Twister: 4
Icarus Wings: 6
Hang Glider: 6

Ballooner is cool and seems to be one of the more carefully thought-out and realistically-behaved wind skills in the game. Do you know for example that a spearer's spear (while still moving) can pop the balloon? It will also check for terrain between the lemming and the bottom of the balloon, and prevent the balloon from carrying the lemming up through any such intervening terrain (as if the lemming got snagged there by the terrain, exactly like in a real-world setup--granted, in actual playing sometimes this behavior can be an annoyance, as it may leave you no way to even pop the balloon to recover). Controlling the movement precisely is also not quite as fiddly as one might think at first--since the fan's force on the balloon is inversely related to its distance from the balloon (ie. weaker the farther away, naturally), there is a sweet spot where the downward force from the fan can exactly cancel out the upward buoyancy of the balloon resulting in it keeping perfectly stationary.

TL;DR--"Ballooner is cool."

Hence the +1.

Minim · « **Reply #122 on:** February 20, 2014, 06:58:36 AM »

Ballooner: 8
Surfer: 1 [-1] purely for setting up a possible triple-elimination.

Parachuter: 1
Jet Pack: 1
Twister: 4
Icarus Wings: 7 [+1]
Hang Glider: 5 [-1]

ccexplore · « **Reply #123 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:05:56 AM »

Quote from: minimac on 2014-02-20 00:58:36

purely for setting up a possible triple-elimination.

I realize above may be just a joke, but do let me point out that under the current rules, triple elimination is impossible unless at least one of the 3 victims have a fractional score no greater than 2/3. Or unless we start allowing larger amounts of hurt/heal (eg. -3/+2 rather than -2/+1).

That said, now people have more choices on how to carry out the impending eliminations.

Simon · « **Reply #124 on:** February 20, 2014, 10:45:01 AM »

Ballooner: 8
Surfer: 1
Parachuter: 1
Jet Pack: 1
Twister: 2 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 8 [+1]
Hang Glider: 5

-- Simon

Proxima · « **Reply #125 on:** February 20, 2014, 03:46:12 PM »

Let's see how this goes

Ballooner: 8
Surfer: 1
Parachuter: 1
Jet Pack: ½ [-½]
Twister: ½ [-1½]
Icarus Wings: 9 [+1]
Hang Glider: 5

ccexplore · « **Reply #126 on:** February 20, 2014, 09:16:34 PM »

Hmm... $:-\$ in lieu of choosing between Surfer vs Parachuter as the third victim, I shall set them up instead for a possible quadruple-elimination!

Ballooner: 9 [+1]
Surfer: ½ [-½]
Parachuter: ½ [-½]
Jet Pack: ½
Twister: ½
Icarus Wings: 9
Hang Glider: 4 [-1]

Clam · « **Reply #127 on:** February 20, 2014, 09:23:15 PM »

Ballooner: 9
Surfer: ½
Parachuter: ½
Jet Pack: ½
Twister: ½
Icarus Wings: 10 [+1]
Hang Glider: 2 [-2]

Why stop at quadruple elimination?

Proxima · « **Reply #128 on:** February 20, 2014, 09:30:10 PM »

You guys

Ballooner: 9
Surfer: ¼ [-¼]
Parachuter: ½
Jet Pack: ½
Twister: ¼ [-¼]
Icarus Wings: 11 [+1]
Hang Glider: ½ [-1½]

Simon · « **Reply #129 on:** February 20, 2014, 10:08:58 PM »

Ballooner: 7 [-2]
Surfer: ¼
Parachuter: ½
Jet Pack: ½
Twister: ¼
Icarus Wings: 12 [+1]
Hang Glider: ½

-- Simon

ccexplore · « **Reply #130 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:09:30 AM »

Well, it will take a while before we can sextuple-eliminate

, so here we go for the quint-......

Ballooner: 8 [+1]
~~Surfer: 0~~ [-¼]
~~Parachuter: 0~~ [-½]
~~Jet Pack: 0~~ [-½]
~~Twister: 0~~ [-¼]
Icarus Wings: 12
~~Hang Glider: 0~~ [-½]

I must say, it is not quite as fun as I hoped, when it takes that much typing to eliminate stuff.

ccexplore · « **Reply #131 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:22:53 AM »

BTW, I propose that after we finally wear down the current round, for the next round we do the ultimate hurt&heal for this forum with the Lemmings games themselves being the victims. Like Lemmings vs ONML vs Lemmings 2 vs Revolution, or something like that.

Simon · « **Reply #132 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:39:41 AM »

We shall conduct both lists at the same time, since the first is getting a little dull.

Ballooner: 6 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 13 [+1]

I shall not include Lemmings titles that republish L1 levels for the n-th time (PSP, even though it has additional levels), and games must use the Lemmings franchise. Missing games shall be added by other people, who may, as a bonus, instantly select 3 different games from the list and deduct 1 point each.

Lemmings: 5
ONML: 5
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 5
Chronicles: 5
L3D: 5
Paintball: 5
Lomax: 5
Revolution: 5
Playstation: 5

-- Simon

Proxima · « **Reply #133 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:45:32 AM »

Good idea

Ballooner: 4 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 14 [+1]

* * *

Lemmings: 6 [+1]
ONML: 5
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 3 [-2]
Chronicles: 5
L3D: 5
Paintball: 5
Lomax: 5
Revolution: 5
Playstation: 5

Simon · « **Reply #134 on:** February 21, 2014, 01:02:24 AM »

Immediately go back to fanning and blowing the ballooner down further.

Ballooner: 2 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 15 [+1]

* * *

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 6 [+1]
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 5
L3D: 5
Paintball: 5
Lomax: 5
Revolution: 5
Playstation: 3 [-2]

-- Simon

ccexplore · « **Reply #135 on:** February 21, 2014, 02:00:03 AM »

Quote from: Simon on 2014-02-20 19:02:24

Immediately go back to fanning and blowing the ballooner down further.

I figure that would be its ultimate fate, but no, not quite ready to admit defeat just yet. Plus, you guys are aware that the mythology behind Icarus is not a happy ending right?

Ballooner: 3 [+1]
Icarus Wings: 13 [-2]

***

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 6
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 5
L3D: 5
Paintball: 5
Lomax: 3 [-2]
Revolution: 6 [+1]
Playstation: 3

Minim · « **Reply #136 on:** February 21, 2014, 06:30:43 AM »

Ballooner: 3 [+1]
Icarus Wings: 13 [-2]

***

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 6
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 3 [-2]
L3D: 5
Paintball: 6 [+1]
Lomax: 3
Revolution: 6
Playstation: 3

mobius · « **Reply #137 on:** February 21, 2014, 06:18:46 PM »

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 6
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 5
Paintball: 6
Lomax: 1 [-2]
Revolution: 7 [+1]
Playstation: 3

Proxima · « **Reply #138 on:** February 21, 2014, 08:58:08 PM »

Ballooner: 1 [-2]
Icarus Wings: 14 [+1]

Lemmings: 7 [+1]
ONML: 6
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 1 [-2]
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 5
Paintball: 6
Lomax: 1
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 3

geoo · « **Reply #139 on:** February 21, 2014, 10:32:52 PM »

Ballooner: 0 [-1]
~~Icarus Wings: 15 [+1]~~

Lemmings: 5 [-2] (Most levels kinda suck to be honest, should get props for the initial game idea though)
ONML: 6
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 2 [+1] (fun, despite the crappy controls!)
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 5
Paintball: 6
Lomax: 1
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 3

ccexplore · « **Reply #140 on:** February 22, 2014, 12:18:14 AM »

Quote from: geoo on 2014-02-21 16:32:52

Ballooner: 0 [-1]
~~Icarus Wings: 15 [+1]~~

Haha, funny.

Okay probably unintentional but still kinda funny.

And welcome back geoo!

Lemmings: 5
ONML: 4 [-2] (just to be contrarian. Honestly, I'd be shocked if this actually gets eliminated for real...)
Holiday: 5
Tribes: 2
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 6 [+1]
Paintball: 6
Lomax: 1
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 3

Minim · « **Reply #141 on:** February 22, 2014, 07:22:32 AM »

Lemmings: 5
ONML: 4
Holiday: 4 [-1]
Tribes: 3 [+1]
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 6
Paintball: 6
~~Lomax~~: 0 [-1]
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 3

Proxima · « **Reply #142 on:** February 22, 2014, 02:18:48 PM »

And I still say that Lemmings (1) has the most enjoyable levels of the original games (except for a few duds like Hunt the Nessy...) as they are always fun to come back to, mess around with, try different routes or the various challenges we've come up with.

Lemmings: 6 [+1]
ONML: 4
Holiday: 2 [-2]
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 6
Paintball: 6
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 3

Clam · « **Reply #143 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:25:27 AM »

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 4
Holiday: 2
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 4 [+1] (deserves a bit more attention around here)
L3D: 4 [-2] (the first level already requires trial and error)
Paintball: 6
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 3

Minim · « **Reply #144 on:** February 24, 2014, 06:57:33 AM »

Lemmings: 5 [-1]
ONML: 4
Holiday: 1 [-1]
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 4
L3D: 4
Paintball: 6
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 4 [+1]

BTW, which version of Playstation lemmings are we talking about? PS3 or PSP?

Clam · « **Reply #145 on:** February 24, 2014, 07:26:09 AM »

It's the PS3 version with the skill pick-ups. Unfortunately I suggested this before the game so can't claim the bonus hurt points

Simon · « **Reply #146 on:** February 24, 2014, 08:15:38 AM »

Lemmings: 5
ONML: 4
Holiday: 1
Tribes: 4 [+1] for the medieval theme
Chronicles: 4
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4 [-2] for invisible traps
Revolution: 7
Playstation: 4

-- Simon

ccexplore · « **Reply #147 on:** February 24, 2014, 12:20:42 PM »

Lemmings: 5
ONML: 4
Holiday: 2 [+1] Some levels are interesting. If nothing else, surely Hail 6 is a better gimmick than Crazy 11.

Tribes: 4
Chronicles: 3 [-1] Nothing too wrong per se, but although I played it every now and then I've yet to have finished the game, yet unlike L1 and L2.
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 6 [-1] Same as above.
Playstation: 4

Proxima · « **Reply #148 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:19:44 PM »

Hail 6 was an absolute nightmare working out how to save the maximum possible in Lix (which turns out to be 61).

Lemmings: 6 [+1]
ONML: 4
~~Holiday: 0 [-2]~~
Tribes: 4
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 6
Playstation: 4

ccexplore · « **Reply #149 on:** February 24, 2014, 07:40:22 PM »

Regarding Hail 6(assuming Lix didn't turn the nuke to a flinging explosion)the maximum itself should actually be relatively easy to determine with a small bit of level editing, the tedium is more in setting up an actual working solution.
=====
Lemmings: 4 [-2] Only entry here where 1/3 of all its levels are repeats, vs 0 for everyone else.
ONML: 4
Tribes: 4
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 6
Playstation: 5 [+1] Haven't played it (and will surely get a -1 in the future for being PlayStation only), but giving some credit for doing something slightly different in gameplay from the dozens of more straightforward clones of the original.

Clam · « **Reply #150 on:** February 26, 2014, 01:45:58 AM »

Lemmings: 4
ONML: 4
Tribes: 4
Chronicles: 4 [+1 to create a 7-way tie

]
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 4 [-2 because it wouldn't record properly forcing IS to abandon the let's play

]
Playstation: 5

Proxima · « **Reply #151 on:** February 26, 2014, 04:54:36 PM »

Quote from: ccexplore on 2014-02-24 13:40:22

Regarding Hail 6(assuming Lix didn't turn the nuke to a flinging explosion)the maximum itself should actually be relatively easy to determine with a small bit of level editing

I know; that's why I said it was a nightmare working out how to save the maximum

=====
Lemmings: 5 [+1]
ONML: 4
Tribes: 2 [-2]
Chronicles: 4
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 4
Playstation: 5

ccexplore · « **Reply #152 on:** March 13, 2014, 06:48:54 PM »

Back to another 7-way tie......

Lemmings: 4 [-1]
ONML: 4
Tribes: 3 [+1]
Chronicles: 4
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 4
Playstation: 4 [-1]

Simon · « **Reply #153 on:** March 13, 2014, 07:03:26 PM »

Lemmings: 4
ONML: 5 [+1]
Tribes: 3
Chronicles: 4
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 3 [-1] no easily identifiable teleporter pairs
Playstation: 3 [-1] strongest association with Sony

-- Simon

Clam · « **Reply #154 on:** April 04, 2014, 09:02:32 AM »

Lemmings: 4
ONML: 5
Tribes: 2 [-1] 2 points for Lemmings 2
Chronicles: 3 [-1] 3 points for Lemmings 3
L3D: 4
Paintball: 4 [oops fixed]
Revolution: 3
Playstation: 4 [+1] 4 points for PlayStation 4 (not that that's related to Lemmings)

ccexplore · « **Reply #155 on:** April 04, 2014, 08:44:04 PM »

Lemmings: 5 [+1] (um......ok I'm stretching here

, but spawned 5 general-release official "sequels/demos" still based on same game engine as original: ONML, plus the 4 Xmas games released 1991-1994)
ONML: 4 [-1] (4-letter acronym)
Tribes: 2
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 3 [-1] (3 dimensions)
Paintball: 4 [correcting typo in Clam's post]
Revolution: 3
Playstation: 4

Proxima · « **Reply #156 on:** April 04, 2014, 09:05:56 PM »

Lemmings: 6 [+1]
ONML: 4
~~Tribes: 0 [-2]~~
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 3
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 3
Playstation: 4

Wafflem · « **Reply #157 on:** April 10, 2014, 04:00:26 AM »

I want to try this!

ONML gets a point because of its challenging levels and no repeats (though Wild 1 and Wicked 6 are similar in layout).

If the Playstation is the PS3 version, I'll take away two points because there aren't enough levels, and there aren't enough Lemmings styles (though the remix of the Lemmings music in the main menu is very nice). If it's the PS1 version, well, I've never played it, but I heard that the Special Levels aren't there, so it still loses the two points.

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 5 [+1]
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 3
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 3
Playstation: 2 [-2]

Mariachi Skeletron Prime · « **Reply #158 on:** November 05, 2014, 05:51:07 PM »

Lemmings 3D just felt wierd. Lemmings isn't something that should be 3D, IMO.

Playstation was the first lemmings version I had, I don't care if it didn't have special levels, it was awesome.

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 2 [-1]
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 3
Playstation: 3 [+1]

Minim · « **Reply #159 on:** November 08, 2014, 08:14:12 PM »

MSP, the rule here is that you take [-2] off one option rather than [-1]. Otherwise this game would take forever! Your [+1] was okay.

I'd assume in this case you want to take two off L3D? OK then. I'll keep with the flow and do that for you.

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 3
L3D: 1 [-1]
Paintball: 5 [+1]
Revolution: 3
Playstation: 1 [-2]

Mariachi Skeletron Prime · « **Reply #160 on:** November 09, 2014, 10:32:32 PM »

Whoops.

Thanks anyway.

mobius · « **Reply #161 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:23:00 PM »

I'm really surprised Paintball got so high. I thought not many people here even played that game.

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 3
~~L3D: 0 [-1]~~
Paintball: 5
Revolution: 4 [+1]
~~Playstation: 0 [-1]~~

I'm sad to remove those two because I never played them and always wanted to.

Simon · « **Reply #162 on:** November 13, 2014, 10:50:53 PM »

Lemmings: 5 (-)
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 4 (+)
Paintball: 4 (-) Your instincts are right. :-)
Revolution: 4

-- Simon

Proxima · « **Reply #163 on:** November 13, 2014, 11:58:58 PM »

Lemmings: 6 (+1)
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 2 (-2)
Paintball: 4
Revolution: 4

NaOH · « **Reply #164 on:** November 14, 2014, 12:05:50 AM »

Quote from: möbius on 2014-11-13 16:23:00

I'm really surprised Paintball got so high.

I agree. This must be fixed.

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 2
Paintball: 2 (-2)
Revolution: 5 (+1)

Minim · « **Reply #165 on:** November 15, 2014, 04:22:05 PM »

Lemmings: 5 (-1)
ONML: 5
Chronicles: 1 (-1)
Paintball: 3 (+1)
Revolution: 5

Wafflem · « **Reply #166 on:** January 28, 2015, 02:32:11 AM »

Lemmings: 4 (-1)
ONML: 6 (+1)
Chronicles: 1
Paintball: 2 (-1)
Revolution: 5

Proxima · « **Reply #167 on:** January 28, 2015, 02:39:28 AM »

Lemmings: 5 (+1)
ONML: 6
Chronicles: 1
Paintball: 2
Revolution: 3 (-2)

Wafflem · « **Reply #168 on:** January 28, 2015, 02:48:17 AM »

To be honest, I've never played Chronicles before, but I saw some videos and thought the gameplay looked pretty cool (with great visuals), so...

Lemmings: 5
ONML: 6
Chronicles: 2 (+1)
~~Paintball: 0~~ (-2)
Revolution: 3

Sorry, Paintball. Though I do like the music, and the gameplay is very different. I've played a demo of the game and found the levels to be quite tricky.

Proxima · « **Reply #169 on:** March 03, 2018, 12:58:13 PM »

It's technically been more than 48 hours, so I guess it's okay to post again?

We should finish this....

Lemmings: 6 (+1)
ONML: 6
~~Chronicles: 0~~ (-2)
Revolution: 3

Flopsy · « **Reply #170 on:** March 03, 2018, 04:13:31 PM »

Lemmings: 6
ONML: 7 (+1)
Revolution: 1 (-2)

kieranmillar · « **Reply #171 on:** March 03, 2018, 04:19:56 PM »

Lemmings: 7 (+1)
ONML: 6 (-1)
~~Revolution: 0~~ (-1)

Proxima · « **Reply #172 on:** March 03, 2018, 04:26:58 PM »

Lemmings: 8 (+1)
ONML: 4 (-2)

kieranmillar · « **Reply #173 on:** March 03, 2018, 05:19:34 PM »

Lemmings: 9 (+1)
ONML: 2 (-2)

==========

Well that's going a predictable way, so let's start something new.

Tilesets from the 1st generation games (Lemmings and ONML).

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 5
Hell: 5
Marble: 5
Pillar: 5
Brick: 5
Bubble: 5
Rock: 5
Snow: 5

Flopsy · « **Reply #174 on:** March 03, 2018, 05:22:59 PM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 5
Hell: 6 (+1)
Marble: 5
Pillar: 5
Brick: 5
Bubble: 5
Rock: 5
Snow: 3 (-2)

Proxima · « **Reply #175 on:** March 03, 2018, 05:51:14 PM »

Lemmings: 10 (+1)
~~ONML: 0~~ (-2)

Yay for original Lemmings!

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 5
Hell: 6
Marble: 6 (+1)
Pillar: 5
Brick: 4 (-1)
Bubble: 5
Rock: 5
Snow: 2 (-1)

kieranmillar · « **Reply #176 on:** March 03, 2018, 06:16:29 PM »

Crystal: 4 (-1) - Has too many areas that blend in with the background for my tastes
Dirt: 5
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6 (+1) - The most memorable tileset
Brick: 4
Bubble: 4 (-1) - Has no steel
Rock: 5
Snow: 2

607 · « **Reply #177 on:** March 04, 2018, 09:45:13 AM »

Crystal: 5 (+1)
Dirt: 5
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4
Bubble: 3 (-1)
Rock: 5
Snow: 1 (-1)

Proxima · « **Reply #178 on:** March 04, 2018, 01:50:17 PM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 4 (-1)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4
Bubble: 4 (+1)
Rock: 4 (-1)
Snow: 1

Flopsy · « **Reply #179 on:** March 04, 2018, 02:02:46 PM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 3 (-1)
Hell: 7 (+1)
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4
Bubble: 4
Rock: 4
~~Snow: 0~~ (-1)

Ryemanni · « **Reply #180 on:** March 04, 2018, 03:18:37 PM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 3
Hell: 6 (-1)
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 5 (+1)
Bubble: 4
Rock: 3 (-1)

Proxima · « **Reply #181 on:** March 04, 2018, 03:36:51 PM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 2 (-1)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 5
Bubble: 5 (+1)
Rock: 2 (-1)

The rough-edged tilesets seem to be having a rough time

Let's see which is next to go....

bulletride · « **Reply #182 on:** March 05, 2018, 12:09:59 AM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 3 (+1)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4 (-1)
Bubble: 4 (-1)
Rock: 2

Flopsy · « **Reply #183 on:** March 05, 2018, 12:19:17 AM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 3
Hell: 7 (+1)
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4
Bubble: 4
~~Rock: 0~~ (-2)

Proxima · « **Reply #184 on:** March 05, 2018, 12:24:36 AM »

Crystal: 5
Dirt: 2 (-1)
Hell: 6 (-1) to restore the "6-6-6"
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4
Bubble: 5 (+1)

GigaLem · « **Reply #185 on:** March 05, 2018, 12:48:11 AM »

Crystal: 5
~~Dirt: 0~~ (-2)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 5 (+1)
Bubble: 5

Nessy · « **Reply #186 on:** March 05, 2018, 01:11:41 AM »

Crystal: 6 (+1)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6
Brick: 4 (-1)
Bubble: 4 (-1)

Sorry Brick and Bubble... I still love you guys but Crystal is the best graphic set ever!

Proxima · « **Reply #187 on:** March 05, 2018, 01:15:10 AM »

It's already extremely hard to choose, as I love all the remaining graphics sets

Crystal: 6
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 5 (-1)
Brick: 3 (-1)
Bubble: 5 (+1)

Nessy · « **Reply #188 on:** March 05, 2018, 01:32:05 AM »

Crystal: 7 (+1)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 5
Brick: 1 (-2)
Bubble: 5

Once again, sorry Brick.

kieranmillar · « **Reply #189 on:** March 05, 2018, 07:17:19 AM »

Crystal: 6 (-1)
Hell: 6
Marble: 6
Pillar: 6 (+1)
~~Brick: 0~~ (-1)
Bubble: 5

I was going to save Brick but then I remembered that often the small bricks don't even line up properly between some pieces, which is an outrage.

Ryemanni · « **Reply #190 on:** March 05, 2018, 01:13:10 PM »

Crystal: 6
Hell: 5 (-1)
Marble: 7 (+1)
Pillar: 6
Bubble: 4 (-1)

Proxima · « **Reply #191 on:** March 05, 2018, 02:38:12 PM »

Crystal: 6
Hell: 4 (-1)
Marble: 7
Pillar: 5 (-1)
Bubble: 5 (+1) (I seem to be doing this every time!)

607 · « **Reply #192 on:** March 05, 2018, 06:11:28 PM »

I wanted to heal dirt, but it seems like I'm too late for that...

I had also misinterpreted a post, apparently, as I thought you needed to wait 48 hours in-between posts, which seemed like a lot. But apparently the only regulation is not to double-post, which seems quite loose.

Crystal: 7 (+1)
Hell: 2 (-2)
Marble: 7
Pillar: 5
Bubble: 5

Nessy · « **Reply #193 on:** March 06, 2018, 01:17:14 AM »

Crystal: 7
Hell: 3 (+1)
Marble: 6 (-1)
Pillar: 4 (-1)
Bubble: 5

kieranmillar · « **Reply #194 on:** March 06, 2018, 07:26:02 AM »

Crystal: 6 (-1)
Hell: 4 (+1)
Marble: 5 (-1)
Pillar: 4
Bubble: 5

Ryemanni · « **Reply #195 on:** March 06, 2018, 08:57:15 AM »

Crustal: 6
Hell: 2 (-2)
Marble: 5
Pillar: 5 (+1)
Bubble: 5

Proxima · « **Reply #196 on:** March 06, 2018, 09:10:16 AM »

Can't do anything any more without hurting one of my favourites

Crystal: 5 (-1)
Hell: 2
Marble: 6 (+1)
Pillar: 4 (-1)
Bubble: 5

bsmith · « **Reply #197 on:** March 06, 2018, 03:30:44 PM »

Crystal: 3 (-2)
Hell: 3 (+1)
Marble: 6
Pillar: 4
Bubble: 5

kieranmillar · « **Reply #198 on:** March 06, 2018, 04:41:27 PM »

Crystal: 3
Hell: 3
Marble: 6
Pillar: 5 (+1)
Bubble: 3 (-2)

Everyone seems to be ignoring bubble, so everyone must think its middle of the current pack. But let's be honest here, its not the best. It doesnt even have any steel!

Glad that there's been tons of back and forth in this list. Its more fun when there's less consensus.

Proxima · « **Reply #199 on:** March 07, 2018, 02:34:41 AM »

Flopsy was complaining about the number of turns I've taken, but I've been following the rule to wait for at least two other people to go before having a turn. If you think we should change that rule, we can talk about it before the next round.

Crystal: 3
Hell: 3
Marble: 6
Pillar: 3 (-2)
Bubble: 4 (+1)